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Re: Dielectric

by dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 12, 2008 at 03:57 PM

Dear rambotrout:

On Jun 12, 2:40=A0pm, rambotrout <rambotr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > What would be the electric field in between the
> > > dielectric materials?
>
> > No change, I think. =A0The electric field is impressed
> > by the charge on the plates. =A0The amount of energy
> > involved in impressing that particular field, that is
> > something else again.
>
> Do you mean it follows the Coulumb's law without
> being affected by the dielectric material? I thought
> (but I may be wrong) the dielectric material would
> change the electric field in the material as the law
> is derived for the va***m case. The Coulumb
> constant is affected by electric constant (va***m
> permittivity) and a dielectric onstant is the ratio of
> static permittivity of the material and electric
> constant. I am pretty sure it does change
> something just like it affects the capacitance.

The electric field is governed by the charge on the plates.  I had
assumed you left a "battery " connected, and were interested only in
how the "electric field" was distributed within the medium.

Maybe you need to wait on a better answer on this one from someone
lese.

> > > If the water contains ions, would that change
> > > its dielectric constant from that of its pure
> > > form (about 80)?
>
> > No, it controls its "leakage" or resistivity.
>
> I don't think I am getting an answer. Assume
> that the electrodes are thinly insulated so as
> to block current leakage. Would water with ions
> in it still retain its dielectric constant of 80?

http://lists.contesting.com/_topband/2002-07/msg00111.html
fresh water, k =3D 80.
salt water, k =3D 81.

The k value describes how the material stores energy under an electric
field.  The water molecule "deforms", as well as aligning.  Ions will
only align.

David A. Smith
 




 24 Posts in Topic:
Dielectric
rambotrout <rambotrout  2008-06-12 11:53:10 
Re: Dielectric
dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-12 12:18:11 
Re: Dielectric
rambotrout <rambotrout  2008-06-12 14:40:01 
Re: Dielectric
John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-18 23:15:44 
Re: Dielectric
John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-18 23:19:03 
Re: Dielectric
dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-24 11:17:36 
Re: Dielectric
John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-24 17:04:51 
Re: Dielectric
dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-28 11:18:55 
Re: Dielectric
John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-28 21:43:10 
Re: Dielectric
dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-12 15:57:11 
Re: Dielectric
John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-12 21:37:29 
Re: Dielectric
rambotrout <rambotrout  2008-06-13 02:45:13 
Re: Dielectric
"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-15 07:20:07 
Re: Dielectric
rambotrout <rambotrout  2008-06-16 10:59:16 
Re: Dielectric
"N:dlzc D:aol T:com   2008-06-16 17:03:49 
Re: Dielectric
John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-19 09:48:55 
Re: Dielectric
dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-25 10:33:42 
Re: Dielectric
dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-19 07:30:59 
Re: Dielectric
John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-19 16:34:33 
Re: Dielectric
dlzc <dlzc1@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-19 14:18:52 
Re: Dielectric
John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-19 20:19:35 
Re: Dielectric
"John Polasek"   2008-06-24 10:33:35 
Re: Dielectric
rambotrout <rambotrout  2008-06-25 03:49:45 
Re: Dielectric
Andrzej Novak <novakyu  2008-07-19 03:30:27 

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