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Re: Expelled: If you don't believe in holy physics dogma ; you're fired!

by "Bill Miller" <billmillerkt4ye@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 21, 2008 at 07:35 PM

"Spaceman" <spaceman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:MtGdnScK_upVu8DVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Bill Miller wrote:
>> For example, for many years, Newton's Law fell into the "Law"
>> category. Not anymore.
>
> Sorry to quibble Bill,
> What law of newtons became not a law anymore?
> Perpetual motion designers all over the world would like to know
> so they can "break" all of his laws by simply jumping over one.
> :)
>
> -- 
> James M Driscoll Jr
> Spaceman
>
>
>Hello Spaceman. No quibble... just an example of how teaching has not
kept 
>pace with reality. Here goes:

One of the fundamental laws of mechanics is Newton's law of action and 
reaction, usually stated as : "Whenever a body exerts a force (action) on
a 
second body, the second body exerts an equal and opposite force (reaction)

on the first body."

Suppose that a stationary mass is located in the gravitational field of 
another, distant stationary mass.The two m***** exert equal and opposite 
forces on each other. (Action and reaction)  Let us now allow one mass to 
move under the action of the field of the other mass. ut the second mass, 
being far away, does not yet "know
 that the first mass has moved. (gravity -- like light -- cannot propagate

instantaneously.) The second body continues to experience the same force
as 
before.

In other words, the forces are now unequal in magnitude and direction and 
Newton's action/reaction law no longer holds! Further, this situation also

is in conflict with the very basic law of conservation of momentum.

For a detailed analysis of this, and other Newtonian flaws, please see 
Jefimenko's "Causality, Electromagnetic Induction and Gravitation" OR 
"Gravitation and Cogravitation."

BTW, Timo questioned my assertion that F = MA was also "leaky." I THOUGHT 
that the above also affected this equation. After further review... Timo's

right... so far!

I hope this helps!

BTW, yes, a glass is simultaneously 20% empty and 80% full, but entirely
too 
many people (IMNTBHO) ignore the fullness and concentrate only on the 
empitiness. And that's kinda sad!

Bill
 




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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-18 17:59:37 
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Uncle Al <UncleAl0@[EM  2008-06-18 18:15:33 
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"Tom M" <tmi  2008-06-18 22:01:13 
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"Greg Neill" &l  2008-06-18 23:01:01 
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"Vince Morgan"   2008-06-19 14:13:44 
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Jim Black <fmlast3@[EM  2008-06-18 19:08:46 
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oriel36 <geraldkellehe  2008-06-18 20:13:33 
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Damaeus <no-mail@[EMAI  2008-06-19 16:22:49 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-19 09:38:47 
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Richard Henry <pomerad  2008-06-19 12:06:49 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-20 20:48:24 
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"Phil Holman" &  2008-06-20 16:33:59 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-21 15:38:55 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-21 11:46:20 
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"Phil Holman" &  2008-06-21 19:41:44 
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Damaeus <no-mail@[EMAI  2008-06-23 20:45:26 
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Jim Black <tramspap@[E  2008-06-19 12:20:46 
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Igor <thoovler@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 17:46:08 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-20 20:38:37 
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"Vince Morgan"   2008-06-24 10:54:55 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-25 22:32:38 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-26 17:43:54 
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blackhead <larryharson  2008-06-27 06:35:23 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-27 12:21:47 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-27 08:12:05 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-20 15:30:24 
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"Vince Morgan"   2008-06-21 11:20:36 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-21 11:44:51 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-21 15:54:01 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-21 12:04:12 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-21 19:35:15 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-21 16:34:46 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-23 17:52:16 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-23 14:15:47 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-06-23 21:18:15 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-24 14:24:58 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-24 11:08:03 
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"Szczepan Białek&quo  2008-06-24 19:50:09 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-06-25 06:03:34 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-25 16:41:13 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-25 12:57:41 
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"Greg Neill" &l  2008-06-25 13:12:59 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-25 13:19:18 
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"Greg Neill" &l  2008-06-25 13:40:58 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-25 13:56:18 
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kl31n <kl31n@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-22 14:48:28 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-23 19:22:16 
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blackhead <larryharson  2008-06-27 11:32:33 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-06-29 14:28:07 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-29 23:55:42 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-06-21 21:57:54 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-22 05:52:17 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-22 11:14:32 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-23 18:33:50 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-06-30 22:26:05 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-07-01 10:09:29 
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blackhead <larryharson  2008-07-02 09:45:25 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-07-02 15:27:53 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-24 05:52:17 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-25 18:32:46 
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"Androcles" <  2008-06-25 19:49:20 
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"Vince Morgan"   2008-06-26 11:50:01 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-25 22:25:22 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-07-01 11:09:34 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-23 13:55:24 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-06-26 08:01:13 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-27 06:55:08 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-27 17:23:50 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-30 20:08:08 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-07-01 17:28:17 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-07-01 15:32:08 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-07-01 21:40:52 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-07-01 22:04:07 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-07-02 15:44:25 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-06-27 08:37:03 

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