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Re: Expelled: If you don't believe in holy physics dogma ; you're fired!

by "Bill Miller" <billmillerkt4ye@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 23, 2008 at 07:22 PM

"kl31n" <kl31n@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:raqtz2fpj9nb$.nv1eiob1wigp$.dlg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:35:15 GMT, Bill Miller wrote:
>
>> Suppose that a stationary mass is located in the gravitational field of
>> another, distant stationary mass.The two m***** exert equal and
opposite
>> forces on each other. (Action and reaction)  Let us now allow one mass
to
>> move under the action of the field of the other mass. ut the second
mass,
>> being far away, does not yet "know
>>  that the first mass has moved. (gravity -- like light -- cannot 
>> propagate
>> instantaneously.) The second body continues to experience the same
force 
>> as
>> before.
>
>> In other words, the forces are now unequal in magnitude and direction
and
>> Newton's action/reaction law no longer holds! Further, this situation 
>> also
>> is in conflict with the very basic law of conservation of momentum.
>
> Either you forgot to say something that I can't reverse engineer at the
> moment, or, in the case you described, the forces are still always equal
> instant per instant

>
> The fields are time and space continous and both of the m***** move with
> trajectories that are of class Cinf and with speeds below those of the
> fields. How can the forces possibly be unequal? I assume you know what
> you're talking about, so please tell me more, because I don't get it.

Imagine two mass, M1 and M2. separated by a distance D. A change *of any 
sort* in, say, M1 will not be detected by  M2 until time t = D/Cg where Cg
= 
speed of gravitation (assumed to be equal to the speed of light.) During 
that time, the forces will be out of balance. Further, if the change is 
continuous, then the forces will continually be out of balance.

73
Bill .

> Regards,
>
> kl31n
 




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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-18 17:59:37 
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Uncle Al <UncleAl0@[EM  2008-06-18 18:15:33 
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"Tom M" <tmi  2008-06-18 22:01:13 
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"Greg Neill" &l  2008-06-18 23:01:01 
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"Vince Morgan"   2008-06-19 14:13:44 
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Jim Black <fmlast3@[EM  2008-06-18 19:08:46 
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oriel36 <geraldkellehe  2008-06-18 20:13:33 
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Damaeus <no-mail@[EMAI  2008-06-19 16:22:49 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-19 09:38:47 
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Richard Henry <pomerad  2008-06-19 12:06:49 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-20 20:48:24 
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"Phil Holman" &  2008-06-20 16:33:59 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-21 15:38:55 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-21 11:46:20 
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"Phil Holman" &  2008-06-21 19:41:44 
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Damaeus <no-mail@[EMAI  2008-06-23 20:45:26 
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Jim Black <tramspap@[E  2008-06-19 12:20:46 
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Igor <thoovler@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 17:46:08 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-20 20:38:37 
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"Vince Morgan"   2008-06-24 10:54:55 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-25 22:32:38 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-26 17:43:54 
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blackhead <larryharson  2008-06-27 06:35:23 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-27 12:21:47 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-27 08:12:05 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-20 15:30:24 
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"Vince Morgan"   2008-06-21 11:20:36 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-21 11:44:51 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-21 15:54:01 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-21 12:04:12 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-21 19:35:15 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-21 16:34:46 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-23 17:52:16 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-23 14:15:47 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-06-23 21:18:15 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-24 14:24:58 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-24 11:08:03 
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"Szczepan Białek&quo  2008-06-24 19:50:09 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-06-25 06:03:34 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-25 16:41:13 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-25 12:57:41 
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"Greg Neill" &l  2008-06-25 13:12:59 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-25 13:19:18 
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"Greg Neill" &l  2008-06-25 13:40:58 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-25 13:56:18 
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kl31n <kl31n@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-22 14:48:28 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-23 19:22:16 
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blackhead <larryharson  2008-06-27 11:32:33 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-06-29 14:28:07 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-29 23:55:42 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-06-21 21:57:54 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-22 05:52:17 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-22 11:14:32 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-23 18:33:50 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-06-30 22:26:05 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-07-01 10:09:29 
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blackhead <larryharson  2008-07-02 09:45:25 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-07-02 15:27:53 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-24 05:52:17 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-25 18:32:46 
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"Androcles" <  2008-06-25 19:49:20 
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"Vince Morgan"   2008-06-26 11:50:01 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-25 22:25:22 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-07-01 11:09:34 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-23 13:55:24 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-06-26 08:01:13 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-27 06:55:08 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-27 17:23:50 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-30 20:08:08 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-07-01 17:28:17 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-07-01 15:32:08 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-07-01 21:40:52 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-07-01 22:04:07 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-07-02 15:44:25 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-06-27 08:37:03 

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