Re: Expelled: If you don't believe in holy physics dogma ; you're

On Jun 23, 3:22 pm, "Bill Miller" <billmillerkt...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:

> Imagine two mass, M1 and M2. separated by a distance D. A change *of any
> sort* in, say, M1 will not be detected by  M2 until time t = D/Cg where
Cg =
> speed of gravitation (assumed to be equal to the speed of light.) During
> that time, the forces will be out of balance. Further, if the change is
> continuous, then the forces will continually be out of balance.

Absolutely. Causality is one of the things that physics tends to sweep
under the rug even though everybody knows it's there.  And it's worse
than that. As one can often see here physicists are often so proud of
their mathematical abilities and their skill with understanding the
most complex maths. But is it physics? In my observation todays
physics is still VERY simplistic and elementary in spite of the
developed complexity. There are a couple of reasons for this lack of
advancement to the next level. The ignoring of causality is one. And
related to this is the implicit assumption in science that laws are
all fixed and never changing. In fact ALL phenomena is assumed to be
fixed and never changing! Transient effects no matter how throughly
demonstrated are all lumped into the realm of "pseudoscience".  And it
gets even worse. Today's scientists have next to NO understanding of
the nature of feedback systems. For example, the human body is
probably the most salient feedback system on the planet. Yet look at
medicine!  "feedback" is NEVER taken into account. You give medicine A
to treat disease B and the body's reaction to A is NEVER taken into
the equation. Yes people know about "side effects" and the way the
body will adjust itself to drugs, but it's never regarded as the
feedback system it is. Physicists find it impossible to imagine a case
where when you are performing an experiment, the experiment is
ACTIVELY trying to keep you from performing it!  Hint. In many other
non-science fields, politics for example, this is ALWAYS the case and
widely accepted!  Scientists have all developed this idea that the
universe is basically passive and just sits there as we operate upon
it. There is plenty of evidence this idea is dead wrong!

And to get back onto the topic of this thread, the problem with all
this in not only a simplistic view that fails to advance scientific
thought, but that when people bring the subject up, the
"establishment" attacks and starts using "faith" to assert that the
old primitive linear and non-varying system viewpoints are the ONLY
"valid" viewpoints and if you disagree, you can expect to find the
unemployment line!  Notice how Jefimenko who made a big point of
including causality has been vilified here as a "kook" a "quack" and a
"tenured professor gone bad".

These people who are so proud of their mathematical "intellectual"
achievements really should be ashamed of how they have stunted and
stultified their own fields!  As usual, hubris is followed inexorably
and inevitably by nemesis.