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Re: Expelled: If you don't believe in holy physics dogma ; you're fired!

by "Greg Neill" <gneillREM@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 25, 2008 at 01:40 PM

"Spaceman" <spaceman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Greg Neill wrote:
>> Give us the required stiffness (bulk modulus) of this
>> medium in order for the speed of interaction to be as
>> high as it is measured to be -- the speed of light.
>> Then tell us how anything material could ever move
>> through such a medium, let alone frictionlessly.  After
>> that you can explain how such a medium would not be
>> dispersive for light.
>=20
> Hmm?
> It would seem that it all would match a photons everything.
> so it must just be full of photons or even smaller stuff.

If that were true then gravity could be ****elded by the
simple expedient of interposing a blind (shades of=20
cavorite!), and planets would slow in their orbits due to
frictional effects (a photon bath provides a form of=20
friction to bodies moving in it).

> Of course, you would only have to find a true "mass"
> and size of  such photons or even smaller stuff to finish
> the aether theory correctly.

Oh is that all?  Suppose you take a stab at specifying the
material properties of the bulk aether then, being=20
careful that they correspond to the physical requirements.
I'm not saying specify the particles it's made of (you can
if you want though) but rather the measurable bulk=20
qualities of the aether.

> But of course,
> such is beyond what a rubber ruler person could even think of
> being so brainwashed about a 0 mass photon to begin with.

Forget Relativity in this case.  The aether was a failure
of classical physics (which you would know if you had
read any science history). =20

There are no consistent set of properties that can be
assigned to an aether that will not be self contradictory
or empirically impossible.
 




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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-18 17:59:37 
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Uncle Al <UncleAl0@[EM  2008-06-18 18:15:33 
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"Tom M" <tmi  2008-06-18 22:01:13 
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"Greg Neill" &l  2008-06-18 23:01:01 
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"Vince Morgan"   2008-06-19 14:13:44 
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Jim Black <fmlast3@[EM  2008-06-18 19:08:46 
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oriel36 <geraldkellehe  2008-06-18 20:13:33 
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Damaeus <no-mail@[EMAI  2008-06-19 16:22:49 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-19 09:38:47 
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Richard Henry <pomerad  2008-06-19 12:06:49 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-20 20:48:24 
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"Phil Holman" &  2008-06-20 16:33:59 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-21 15:38:55 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-21 11:46:20 
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"Phil Holman" &  2008-06-21 19:41:44 
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Damaeus <no-mail@[EMAI  2008-06-23 20:45:26 
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Jim Black <tramspap@[E  2008-06-19 12:20:46 
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Igor <thoovler@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 17:46:08 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-20 20:38:37 
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"Vince Morgan"   2008-06-24 10:54:55 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-25 22:32:38 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-26 17:43:54 
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blackhead <larryharson  2008-06-27 06:35:23 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-27 12:21:47 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-27 08:12:05 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-20 15:30:24 
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"Vince Morgan"   2008-06-21 11:20:36 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-21 11:44:51 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-21 15:54:01 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-21 12:04:12 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-21 19:35:15 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-21 16:34:46 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-23 17:52:16 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-23 14:15:47 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-06-23 21:18:15 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-24 14:24:58 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-24 11:08:03 
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"Szczepan Białek&quo  2008-06-24 19:50:09 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-06-25 06:03:34 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-25 16:41:13 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-25 12:57:41 
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"Greg Neill" &l  2008-06-25 13:12:59 
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"Spaceman" <  2008-06-25 13:19:18 
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"Greg Neill" &l  2008-06-25 13:40:58 
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kl31n <kl31n@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-22 14:48:28 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-23 19:22:16 
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blackhead <larryharson  2008-06-27 11:32:33 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-06-29 14:28:07 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-29 23:55:42 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-06-21 21:57:54 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-22 05:52:17 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-22 11:14:32 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-23 18:33:50 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-06-30 22:26:05 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-07-01 10:09:29 
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blackhead <larryharson  2008-07-02 09:45:25 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-07-02 15:27:53 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-24 05:52:17 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-25 18:32:46 
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"Vince Morgan"   2008-06-26 11:50:01 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-25 22:25:22 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-07-01 11:09:34 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-06-23 13:55:24 
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maxwell <spsi@[EMAIL P  2008-06-26 08:01:13 
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"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-06-27 06:55:08 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-06-27 17:23:50 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-06-30 20:08:08 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-07-01 17:28:17 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-07-01 15:32:08 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-07-01 21:40:52 
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John C. Polasek <jpola  2008-07-01 22:04:07 
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"Bill Miller" &  2008-07-02 15:44:25 
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