Re: High current pulsed arcs in both water and air

"Vince Morgan" <vinharAtHereoptusnet.com.au>wrote 
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> "Bert Hickman" <bert_hickman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Vince Morgan wrote:
>
>>>> -- 
> I find this subject very interesting.  The more I think about it the
more
> weird it seems to be.
> An emission spectra would be interesting to examine I think.
> There would have to be very rapid component separation within the
plasma,
> surely.  But, as little gas is found in the final products it would
appear
> that they also recombine rapidly.  The recombination should be
implosive?
> The lack of steam indicates a largely adiabatic process?  There is a
> pressure wave but apparently the overall pressure normalizes very
rapidly
> and leaves no residual expansion of the products. So how do the water
> droplets form?

It is the segmentation of a conductor. See: 
http://www.df.lth.se/%7Esnorkelf/Longitudinal/node3.html#SECTION00300000000000000000

> If it is condensate it shouldn't be a 'cold fog'.  A
> shockwave of sufficient magnitude would be a likely candidate I would 
> think.
> I can't see a transition from bulk water to droplets releasing much 
> energy,
> if any at all.  But then again, I don't have the skills to determine
this 
> at
> all.
> However, as small water droplets can ionize perhaps they do become
> repulsive.

It is better to say "charged".

> If this is true and there is to be found excess energy (and apparently 
> there
> is) the source for that should be found either within the plasma, or in 
> very
> close proximity to it one would think.

To charge something we need a source of charge  with a voltage. The Earth
is 
such. The bulk of water has very small electrical capacity. The droplets 
formed during segmentation have huge electrical capacity.
Similar proces has place when water eva****ate from grounded metal
container. 
Steem is charged and migrate up quickly. Without the connection with the 
Earth the steem is neutral and is lazy. Is there an excess energy?
S*