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Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form

by "Terry L Hewett Sr" <terrylhewettsr@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 1, 2008 at 03:07 AM

"Don Kelly" <dhky@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> "Terry L Hewett Sr" <terrylhewettsr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>I really don't understand why you guys don't understand that a voltage

>>>>is induced in this manner.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXtG4Dkrp4c
>>>>
>>>
>>> We do understand what is going on here- That's why we don't accept
your 
>>> nonsense. -- 
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>>> Don Kelly dhky@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> remove the X to answer
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>> Apparently not. If what i present is "nonsense" than all that Faraday 
>> contributed is also "nonsense"!? In fact it would be safe to say that 
>> Faraday met the same initial resistance.
>> This is sixth grade science. it doesn't take above a childs
understanding 
>> really.
>> There are only three main principles at play here. Electromagnetic
force, 
>> Kinetic energy, and electromagnetic induction. Anything above that is a

>> byproduct of the unified transformations of energy.
>
>
>
> Faraday is OK but in the common form is incomplete. Maxwell'version  is 
> better but again is often given in an incomplete form. This factor is
not 
> taught in 6th grade and apparently not at the university level except in

> an some texts on electromagnetic machines (and in one graduate level
text 
> that I have ).
> The thing is that he had observed and repeatable data to draw his 
> conclusions from. You have only given fanciful descriptions with an
ounce 
> of truth buried in a ton of conjecture.
>
> Given this , you did put up a jpg which showed a ring- apparently what
you 
> are now talking about. It consists of a torus with rings spaced around
it.
> a)what is the material in the torus? Does it include permanent magnets? 
> Spaced apart? If so , by what?
> b)what are the rings- coils? Magnets? If the latter, are they toroidal 
> with the poles on the flat faces?
>
> A few other questions and comments may follow but the major one is how
do 
> you expect such a setup to produce forces to cause motion?
> -- 
>
> Don Kelly dhky@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> remove the X to answer
>

Conjecture? I'm applying some pretty well established principles in a
manner
that is unique not only to mechanics but physics as well.
http://terrylhewettsr.rackhost.net/prototypes,html

Faraday is the man and this mechanism completes his works. I wound a iron
core electromagnet and did the plunging a magnet into a coil experiment in
the sixth grade. I say it is childs play.

a. a crystaline structure such as obsidian i believe would be ideal.
However
Rare Earth NdFeB in the form torus will suffice for now. Permanent
magnetic fields imposed upon the torus at various intervals.  Yes
spaced apart. Impose permanent field move torus, impose permanent field
move torus, repeat process till the torus has a full compliment of fields
at
equal intervals or rather spacing. Se****ated by non permanently magnetized
NdFeB.

b. The "rings" are magnets. not toroidal. disc and yes polar on the
flat faces.  opposite poles are attracting cosistantly throughout the
multipole loop arrangement which by all intensive pourposes is a looped
dipole arrangement.

Your major question. The attracting poles generate a flux field as they
are attracted to eachother. It has all the properties of any other flux 
field.
it isn't permanent and can be easily manipulated by a stronger 
electromagnetic field.
Superconductance comes into play in the reduction of this field. The 
reduction is
of the permiating fields not the mass that plays host to the generated
flux field. The mass is impartial to this field providing it is not 
conductive.

The drive coils 4 in this example
http://terrylhewettsr.rackhost.net/images/!ringdrawingincomplete.jpg
Cage 5 or more multiple permanent fields of the toroid armature each coil.
within the drive coils only the permanent fields will be allowed to
prevail.
the drive coils poles will interract with the permanent fields as they 
approach
travel through and depart from the drive coils. You cannot escape timing 
when
a cyclic mechanism is involved. the coils are offset to promote a constant

attraction
and repulsion uniformly devided among the 4 drive coils. One of the coils 
will be
neutral in reference to corrisponding permanent fields of the toroid 
armature.
the other three coils will be in a progressive state of attraction and 
repulsion
continuing fluid motion of the toroid armature.

All 4 drive coils sup****t the toroid armatures permanent fields while in 
operation.
I've come to understand the caging of the toroid armature as a hadshake or
agreement between electromagnetic field and the permanent fields emf caged

within.
The electromagnetic field by design is not strong enough to demagnetize
the
permanent fields of the toroid armature. So both fields have to cope with 
bieng
in close relation to eachother neither strong enough to overwhelm the
other.
each of the permanent fields would rather flip and align with the drive 
coils poles,
but is prevented from doing such by the permanent fields placement of each

segment
within the toroid armatures mass. The drive coils initial coping mechanism

is to
align it and attract it to the nearest opposite pole, if that is not an 
option than the drive
coils next option is to repulse the offending multiple manifestations as
far 
away as it needs to
manipulate them (flip) and attract it to the nearest opposing pole.

By design entropy is barred. The drive coils have only one option exploit 
the path of least resistance.
The toroid armatures permanent fields have the same option "exploit the
path 
of least resistance".
 




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Faraday paradox in non-circular form
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-07-09 17:34:28 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-07-09 22:17:55 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-07-10 15:13:56 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Don Kelly" <  2008-07-11 02:15:29 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-07-11 17:43:07 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Don Kelly" <  2008-07-15 02:57:02 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Terry L Hewett Sr&q  2008-07-26 23:27:22 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Don Kelly" <  2008-07-28 05:42:56 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Terry L Hewett Sr&q  2008-07-28 10:39:38 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Don Kelly" <  2008-07-29 05:42:52 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Terry L Hewett Sr&q  2008-07-29 10:01:29 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-07-29 18:17:44 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Terry L Hewett Sr&q  2008-07-29 14:41:22 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Don Kelly" <  2008-07-30 02:43:23 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Terry L Hewett Sr&q  2008-07-30 11:42:12 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-07-29 17:04:28 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Terry L Hewett Sr&q  2008-07-29 20:38:14 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Don Kelly" <  2008-07-31 05:39:36 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Terry L Hewett Sr&q  2008-07-31 11:57:14 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Don Kelly" <  2008-07-31 22:58:18 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Terry L Hewett Sr&q  2008-08-01 03:07:40 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Terry L Hewett Sr&q  2008-08-01 12:31:43 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Don Kelly" <  2008-07-30 03:25:17 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@  2008-07-29 17:55:41 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-08-01 15:49:21 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-07-30 08:54:38 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@  2008-07-30 17:54:43 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-07-30 09:14:19 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
"Terry L Hewett Sr&q  2008-07-30 12:07:46 
Re: Faraday paradox in non-circular form
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-08-01 03:19:24 

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