On 2 Aug, 16:59, Benj <bjac...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Aug 1, 8:41=A0pm, Salmon Egg <Salmon...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > This electric field may be called the Lorentz force or something
> > similar, but it seems to be something that must be added to =A0the
> > equations I have already listed. This arises simply out of relativity
> > where the EM field has to be a tensor and has to transform properly
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> > a Lorentz transformation.
>
> > Questions:
>
> > 1. =A0Can this Lorentz force be derived without invoking relativity or
> > another law of nature? That is, are Maxwell's equations sufficient?
>
> I see that you've come to realize that all the faith-based physics
> dogma as spewed by PBS and others simply doesn't cut it. The dogma
> that says, "All electromagnetic phenomena can be "explained" by
> Maxwell's Equations" is wrong. They can't even explain a simple
> Faraday Generator! =A0So, No, Maxwell's equations alone are not
> sufficient. And, Yes, this is an excellent place to poke your nose!
>
> It is the Lorentz relation that is missing. It is related to Maxwell's
> equations but is not one of them! =A0It is often taken to be the
> defining relation for B. =A0The Lorentz relation is written as:
>
> F =3D q(E +(v X B)) =A0And the law does not depend upon the inertial
> reference frame in which the various quantities are measured. .
>
> For more information I urge you to examine Jefimenko's expositions on
> the subject, especially his derivation of the transformations of the
> Lorentz force. =A0"Electromagnetic Retardation and the Theory of
> Relativity" by Oleg D. Jefimenko available from Amazon.com.
But the Lorentz Law is a special case of Faraday's Law in differential
form when B is time independent. I don't understand where you're
getting this idea from that Maxwell's equations aren't sufficient to
explain the Faraday generator.
Title:
A Simple Proof that the Lorentz Force, Law Implied Faraday's Law of
Induction, when B is Time Independent
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1973AmJPh..41..713D
Deriving the Lorentz force equation from Maxwellapos;s equations
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=3D/iel5/7814/21481/00995632=
..pdf?temp=3Dx
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