Re: Induction: Aetherists lend me a hand!

"Benj" <bjacoby@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote 
news:d4d41022-aaa8-4a38-b6d2-646aecbecc9f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Aug 6, 12:34 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" <sz.bia...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> >Therefore tell us more about how a gas-analogy Biot-Savart law would 
> >work!
>
> Biot-Savard is from fluid dynamics. I do not know if now are ready math
in
> gas dynamics. Maybe is it too late for such. Now is time of computers
> models.

Hey, it's never too late. But yes, I know what you mean about computer
models (or more exactly numerical approximations)  And I do understand
how Biot-Savart (And Maxwell, of course) are all fluid models. I"m not
sure what the change to gas dynamics from a perfect fluid does to
"open up" theory.

After discovery of electrons this change is necessary. Industry use the
gas 
analogy.

> Of course we do not need magnetic field. The alternate charge density
> produce an alternate electric field.

Yes, magnetic field is not needed in fact CANNOT be used because it's
not causal to the E field. However, I can see how alternate charge
density can produce alternate electric fields. And presumably that
"might" be transmitted over a distance to produce the E fields of
Induction. Exactly how, though isn't clear to me, but I did love the
"vortex" suggestions as one way of explaining the parallel rather than
radial forces produced.

The vortex and the idle gear are not simple. In nature all is simple.

>> In electrostatics charged body moves electrons in an adjacent
conductor. 
>> In
> electrdynamics the alternate charge density in one conductor produces
the
> oscillating current in the other.

>But of course the forces of induction are not alternating (except very
long term) so one wonders how that might produce induction. I might
suggest, however, that a rotating vortex does indeed project an
"alternation" when viewed from the side. Perhaps there is something of
value there?

Must be more simple.

>> The fluid dynamics models are a "pieces to teach".

>Of course one serious problem with "aether theory" is that the
proposed properties of the luminiferous aether are so extreme that any
classification into "fluid dynamics" or "gas dynamics" or "vibrations
in solids" doesn't seem possible because they ALL seem to apply!

We must use the actual knowledge about waves (transverse are only in
math).

>Interesting!

The most interesting is why electrons prefer charged body than vacuum.
S*