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Re: How does a Faraday disk really work?

by Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 7, 2008 at 09:48 PM

On Aug 6, 7:34=A0pm, blackhead <larryhar...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On 2 Aug, 16:59, Benj <bjac...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> > For more information I urge you to examine Jefimenko's expositions on
> > the subject, especially his derivation of the transformations of the
> > Lorentz force. =A0"Electromagnetic Retardation and the Theory of
> > Relativity" by Oleg D. Jefimenko available from Amazon.com.
>
> But the Lorentz Law is a special case of Faraday's Law in differential
> form when B is time independent. I don't understand where you're
> getting this idea from that Maxwell's equations aren't sufficient to
> explain the Faraday generator.

Actually the Lorentz Law is a special case of Faraday Induction  where
the moving magnet represents elementary currents. These currents
produce a force upon a charge as given by the Lorentz equation.  But
historically the Lorentz equation is taken as a definition of B which
places it outside the Maxwell's equations. But even if we take the
view above that it is derivable as a coordinate transformation the
forces themselves call into question whether the equations involved
are "fundamentaL" or part of Maxwell's set.

I quote from the above reference: P 322.  "Although Eq.( A3.45)
(momentum transfer between mechanical and electromagnetic momentum) is
usually considered a derived equation subordinate to Lorentz force
equation, our analysis shows that Eq. (A3.45) is a fundamental
electromagnetic equation, and that it is quite correct to regard
Loretnz force equation as a consequence of Eq. (A3.45)"

Hence it follows that if the Lorentz eq is a consequence of a
fundamental momentum equation outside the Maxwellian set, it follows
that Maxwell's equations alone are not sufficient to describe all
electromagnetic phenomena as is widely asserted.  OK?
 




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How does a Faraday disk really work?
Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@  2008-08-01 17:41:43 
Re: How does a Faraday disk really work?
Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-08-02 08:59:24 
Re: How does a Faraday disk really work?
Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@  2008-08-02 12:12:01 
Re: How does a Faraday disk really work?
"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-08-03 08:28:59 
Re: How does a Faraday disk really work?
"Timo A. Nieminen&qu  2008-08-03 08:55:20 
Re: How does a Faraday disk really work?
Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-08-03 00:58:26 
Re: How does a Faraday disk really work?
blackhead <larryharson  2008-08-06 16:34:57 
Re: How does a Faraday disk really work?
Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@  2008-08-06 22:23:19 
Re: How does a Faraday disk really work?
blackhead <larryharson  2008-08-07 05:54:16 
Re: How does a Faraday disk really work?
Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-08-07 21:48:41 

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