Re: is the magnetic field really moving?

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> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:56:18 -0500 Terry L Hewett Sr 
> <terrylhewettsr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> |> If there is no output of electricity, what good is it for me?  I'm 
> looking
> |> for ways to generate electricity.  I expect to obey the laws of 
> physics,
> |> such as the conservation of energy (which means I need to find an 
> energy
> |> source for input that is greater than I need in the form of 
> electricity).
> |>
> |
> | In the future what ever you buy will run off of this.
>
> Then it has to have output of power.  You said it had no input or
output.
>

It is a closed system. there is nothing outside of the system. The primary

function within the system there is a input and an output. The primary 
function of the mechanism. The input is in the form of DC power is
supplied 
to the 4 drive coils (not pulsed) continuous direct current. the coil 
arrangement then powered will cage and drive the toroid armature about
it's 
axis. first transformation is complete. elec to kinetic. this is where
most 
mechanisms use the work for it's purpose. think of the first
transformation 
as a 1 to 1 ratio. the DC voltage is totally used in the transformation to

kinetic. the kinetic energy produced is used for the work however the work

is to drive the multiple permanent magnetic field arrangemt of the toroid 
armature through the 4 induction coils inducing voltage. The toroid
armature 
has multiple segments. this final transformation has a potential of a 
extreme ratio via design variation. ok say you have 50 segments (flux 
fields/lines) on the toroid armature. say we only use 1 induction coil and

only one revolution is considered. that's a 50 to 1 ratio. 50 segments 4 
induction coils is a 200 to 1 ratio one revolution. Take into
consideration 
the frictionless environment and the potential for hyper extreme
revolutions 
per minute. continuing with that logic 50 segments 4 induction coils and
at 
100,000rpm is a 20,000,000 to 1 ratio. 20 million times a minute that a 
voltage is induced without interuption. now that's faradays principle of 
induction run amuk.

A ****tion of that is used to drive the toroid armature effectively closing

the system. the excess is what will power electronic circuits etc that are

inducted into the system or in a way riding piggyback on the system.

>
> | Most electronic items (domestic) in the form of 110/220 actually use
dc
> | voltage. your pc under 12v DC.  AC is only needed for the transmission

> of
> | power over great distances.
>
> And your device eliminates the need to transmit power over great 
> distances?
>

Yes. I know the power company is going to hate me. If everything you 
purchase has a stand alone self renewing power supply onboard there is no 
need to plug into the grid. No more charging of cell phones, laptops etc.
no 
plugging in tv's computers, sterios, appliances etc.

I invision electric cars that never need to be charged. EVERYTHING on the 
planet that uses electricity or fuel in any form will be impacted by this 
mechanism.


>
> |> So how is it useful if I can get no energy out of it?
> |>
> |
> | "in short the electrical aperatus you are powering is induced into
> | the system and becomes a part of the closed system. Maintaining system
> | integrity."
>
> And what does that mean?
>

That means that the closed system is ideal under conditions pertaining to 
the laws of conservation of energy. In a closed system energy will be 
conserved proper until acted upon by an outside source. The key term is 
*closed system* The SRTT, mechtrinket, and another invention i'm calling a

Hybrid Electric Generator (HEG) are the only closed systems on the planet.

all other mechanisms are NOT a *closed system*.


>
> |> | Prepairing for the multitude of potential risks is more my worry. 
> proper
> |> | facilities are a must.
> |> | When things go wrong they go horribly wrong post haste. think for a
> |> minute
> |> | were toying with a frictionless mechanism that has the potential to

> meet
> |> or
> |> | exceed any frequency of change we are aware of and probably many we
> |> don't
> |> | know of or have benchmarked per say. Design variations may bring us

> to
> |> this
> |> | point but for now it is not designed to approach a harmful range.
> |>
> |> I don't see how this can be frictionless.  Even magnetic levitation
has
> |> some
> |> drag (though less than a wheel).
> |>
> |
> | I have even eliminated drag coefficient from within the mechanism. It
is
> | frictionless.
> | mag-lev drag? Explain please?
>
> Maglev is low drag, not zero drag.  Even if operated in a vacuum, it
would
> eventually slow down a ballistic (no continuing drive power) object.
>

I'm not 100% sure that there is no drag or resistance as a result of 
interracting magnetic fields. for the better part there is only attraction

and repulsion. I have in the past researched maglev trains.  I just did a 
little research on friction of a maglev train and the results are that
there 
is no observable friction as a result of the levitation. however drag 
coefficient is noted on the sites i visited.


>
> |> The reason I ask is that ! is a but more ***bersome for me.  The way
I
> |> collect and archive URLs manually is affected by the ! character 
> because
> |> in the path I apply the strings I save, the ! has a special meaning. 
I
> |> then need to manually insert the character \ ahead of the ! to force
it
> |> to bypass that special meaning.
> |
> | Sorry I cannot change or rename existing files for reasons of 
> verification.
> | However i will take that into consideration when naming files in the 
> future.
> | Thank you for contacting the terrylhewettsr website webmaster with
your
> | suggestion.
>
> I just thought it was funny to want to add the ! in the names.  I was
just
> wondering if you had some reason for that, such as it being a mechanism 
> for
> your web server software to bypass some script logic or something.
>

I understand why the question now. no that's not the case.

>
> |> | I sent out hundreds of emails with the images and text pertaining
to
> |> this
> |> | and other technology of mine. it is a way of seeing if they
actually
> |> viewed
> |> | the images or just discarded the email.
> |>
> |> How does the ! part apply to that?
> |>
> |
> | The ! put's the file higher on the listed website statistics. Saves a 
> great
> | deal of time searching through hundreds of visitors. I make it a point

> of
> | knowing who is viewing my technology and where they are from. This is 
> the
> | information age and as far as my technology goes I'm well informed.
>
> So you want certain files to show up ahead of other files on your own
> internal statistic/log re****ts.  OK.  Now I know.
>
>
> |> |> Maybe you can explain what it really does.
> |> |
> |> | In short sustain the dipole of the storage mechanism.
> |>
> |> So it is an energy storage system?
> |
> | The battery bank is the storage mechanism to which i was refering to
as 
> a
> | dipole. the multipole belt magnetic field arrangement is also a dipole

> but
> | in this application it is not the storage mechanism.
>
> I'm asking about the device as a whole.

more or less a mechanical charger or maintainer. this is also a closed 
system and with that the capability to induce into the system. battery
bank 
powers dc motor, motor moves multipole belt through several induction
coils 
producing voltage to maintain or sustain the battery bank. if it runs off
of 
batteries this mechanism will eliminate the need to charge from the grid
or 
outside source.



the ratio thing applies here as well drive is 1 to 1. belt 50 segments, 6 
induction coils, 1 revolution 300 to 1 ratio.   belt: 50 segments, 6 
induction coils, 1000 rpm 300,000 to 1 ratio.


>
>
> |> Well, I don't understand it.
> |
> | Don't feel alone. I have been researching it for nearly 2 decades. 
> allthough
> | i have everything about the mechanism and it's link to natural physics

> at
> | the core level pretty well versed. there is such a broadband of
> | entanglements with every action and resulting reaction that it is hard

> to
> | describe or answer one question without bringing to attention a few 
> other
> | related entanglements. it tends to confuse the issue.
>
> I might be able to understand it if every part were shown clearly in its
> exact position.  One thing I also need to know is for any magnets, what
> the exact magnetic orientation is.  I would also need to know which
parts
> are rigidly attached to others, and which are moveable relative to
others.
> Your illustrations managed to show a small fraction of any of this.
>

The SRTT prototype #6 toroid armature consists of 1/4 inch disc magnets
1/8 
inch thick, N42 i think. fields are N on one flat side of disc S on other 
side. the spacers are 1/4 inch long cut sections of a o-ring 1/8 thick. 
prototype #6 is only a model of the toroid armature made only to show the 
field orientation. by design it is one piece with the magnetic segments 
imposed into the the blank rare earth core appropreately spaced as in 
prototype #6. the toroid armature is rigid and the only moving part of the

SRTT.

Mechtrinket Prototype #1 consists of 1/8 disc magnets N42 1/16 thick same 
field orientation. Rubber spacers are used for this prototype cutting them

1/8 inch long and they are 1/8 inch thick. The multipole belt is designed
as 
a one piece flexable belt with segments imposed at the appropreate
spacing. 
the belt and pullys are the only moving parts of mechtrinket. the dc motor

is attached to the mechanisms chassis. the motor shaft and drive pully
move 
together. The idler pully is also mounted to the chasis via stationary
shaft 
and bearing. the induction coils and circuitry are also mounted to the 
chasis.

>
> |> If you can get someone to hand over money for it, that's your
business.
> |>
> |
> | That's also the business of a scam.
>
> If you have something that works, and I mean really works and this can
> be proven, you can get money.  That's not a scam.  Scammers specialize
> in getting money from people who are not diligent enough to want proof.

prototyping hasn't costed much, under $100. I predict once into 
manufacturing a cost of under $20 per unit for say one that will power a 
laptop and fit in the battery compartment with plenty of room to spare. 
Anyways I'm not in a hurry to get filthy rich. I'd rather introduce the 
technology to the scientific community for research.

the truth is I know i'm in over my head and i need help. I'm a mechanic
for 
christ sakes not a "quantum mechanic". However that is the level of 
understanding that the SRTT has drawn me into. Consider each of the 
multipole fields as a charged particle traveling a infinite path with no 
uncertainty or entropy.


>
> I also know if power comes out, power has to go in from somewhere in no
> less an amount.  If I get 1000 joules out over some time frame, there
> had to be 1000 joules go in over some time frame that does not have to
> be the same time frame as the output (note that some of the output can
> be heat I don't always want).

well that's the common understanding among common manmade mechanisms.

there is nothing common about my mechanisms. Thermodynamics is a part of 
natural physics. It's role is conservation of energy's judge, jury, and 
exicutioner. You don't play by the rules or only partially play by the
rules 
your going to be punished in the form of heat. we have learned to deal
with 
this heat in several manners. but still the best way to avoid it
alltogether 
is to play by the rules of the game.

"Knowledge is brain food don't let your brain starve, feed it regularly"- 
Terry L Hewett Sr