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Basic Question

by EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sep 4, 2008 at 04:41 PM

I'm wondering how one can squeeze more current through a given diameter 
wire by means of increasing the voltage. 

I'm wondering a bunch of other stuff too, but the answer to this question 
seems basic to my eventual understanding of other questions.

"More current" means that more coulombs of charge pass by a given point 
per unit of time.  I take this to mean that more electrons flow past the 
point.

If more electrons pass by the point per unit of time, does this mean that 
the velocity of the electrons is greater at higher voltages, all other 
things being equal?  Is the means of getting more electrons through a 
given wire to increase the velocity of the electrons by means of 
increasing the voltage?

If so, then how fast do electrons travel?  

I (think I) understand that the electrons do not necessarily pass through 
the entire length of the wire, but instead, they travel between adjacent 
copper atoms.  When one atom near the source gets extra electrons, it 
p***** some electrons to its neighboring atom.  This propogates down the 
wire from one end to the other, until eventually, the current reaches the 
load at the other end.

And am I correct that at higher voltages, this process happens more 
quickly?  If one had a really long wire, could the time difference be 
noticible and significant?

So how fast does this effect propogate down the length of the wire?  And 
is velocity of travel the mechanism that allows more electrons to "pass 
through" a thin wire at higher voltage per unit of time?


OK, so that is my basic question, and I guess it assumes DC voltages.  Is 
that true?


Taking it one step further, ISTM that with AC, the electons starting at 
the source might not get too far down the wire before polarity changes.  
Here in North America, we switch polarity 60 times a second.

So are the same electrons going back and forth, back and forth, along the 
same physical chunk of wire at AC voltages? 

AND - what happens when we use low voltage and high frequency?  

Specifically, what would happen if the switching frequency is 
significantly quicker than the time required for the voltage change to 
propogate all the way down the wire from the generator to the load?  Does 
the transmission system suffer weird phase problems?

And am I starting to figure out the term "Power Factor" using this line of

reasoning, or am I going in weird circles, and beginning my reasoning 
process with defective premises?

OK.  Lots more than one question.  But I seem to have some basic 
misunderstandings or ignorance that is not letting me figure this stuff 
out in a manner I am confident of.

Any correction of basic misuderstandings will be greatly appreciated. 

-- 
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so 
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
	-- Bertrand Russel
 




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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-09-04 16:41:33 
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Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@  2008-09-04 10:55:10 
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"extremesoundandligh  2008-09-04 11:57:46 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-09-04 20:28:52 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-04 21:05:05 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-09-05 12:50:04 
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Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@  2008-09-05 09:18:46 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-09-06 16:12:51 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-09-07 02:57:52 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-09-10 11:48:50 
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"Szczepan Białek&quo  2008-09-07 11:55:11 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-09-10 11:54:48 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-05 17:15:03 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-09-06 20:57:32 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-09-10 12:04:45 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-09-10 12:11:27 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-09-04 20:17:11 
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Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@  2008-09-04 14:30:37 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-09-05 00:28:08 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-09-10 12:18:21 
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p.kinsler@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-09-10 16:49:06 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-05 19:45:04 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-05 23:15:06 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-09-06 16:23:48 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-06 18:15:04 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-09-06 21:02:36 
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"extremesoundandligh  2008-09-05 12:36:50 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-05 23:25:04 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-09-10 09:16:09 
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Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@  2008-09-10 20:57:28 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-04 20:45:04 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-09-05 00:01:22 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-09-04 21:20:22 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-05 05:05:04 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-09-06 04:19:49 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-09-06 04:25:55 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-06 05:45:05 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-06 05:25:04 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-09-07 00:21:21 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-07 02:25:08 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-09-08 01:04:50 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-08 01:35:05 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-09-09 04:45:59 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-09-05 15:25:39 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-05 23:35:04 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-09-05 22:29:44 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-06 05:55:04 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-09-05 22:30:24 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-06 05:45:05 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-09-06 09:19:20 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-06 18:15:05 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-09-07 00:31:34 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-09-08 08:48:20 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-08 16:15:04 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-08 17:15:04 
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"Don Kelly" <  2008-09-09 05:21:52 
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Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-09-09 09:16:46 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-09 16:35:05 

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